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26 May 2008

KNOW ANY GOOD SITES TO FIND PUBLISHER INFO?

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Posted By : BLUES COLLECTIVE | Comments : 13

For the first tume we have been asked for a full list of every track we may play in a set, including title, who wrote it and even who published it or produced it - they even want to know how long each track takes to play? Now this is a daft question cos every time the band play some of their tracks they can differ by about 3/5mins in time, sometimes 10mins depending on how long Scamps drum solo is! Anyone know any good sites to check out the publisher/producer side of things?

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# Posted by On The Edge - 26/05/2008, 13:02 (GMT)
As a matter of interest were you asked by a venue or by Performing Rights types? Is it for music licence purposes?

Col


# Posted by BLUES COLLECTIVE - 26/05/2008, 13:05 (GMT)
We were asked by a venue, but funnily enough we had a bod from the performin rights turn up at our gig on Saturday asking the same stuff! Presumeably its all for music license purposes!


# Posted by On The Edge - 26/05/2008, 18:01 (GMT)
Take a look at http://www.allmusic.com for composers and http://www.bmi.com for publishers (copyright owners). I've just tried a few of our songs. It's not 100% but it's a start.

Col


# Posted by BLUES COLLECTIVE - 26/05/2008, 20:48 (GMT)
Thanx Col, I will give them a look and update you on how I get on!
Linda


# Posted by BLUES COLLECTIVE - 26/05/2008, 21:01 (GMT)
Col:
Just had a quick look at both sites and they seem to be just what I was looking for! Thanx very much for the help - much appreciated. This will mean I don't have to go cross eyed and greyer trying to scroll through endless info!
Linda


# Posted by Dark Horse - 27/05/2008, 08:21 (GMT)
We were asked for a full set list recently by a guy from the performing rights society,first time I've had this. The following week I got a letter at work from them (PRS) asking if my company has a license for the music played on (various) radios on the shop floor.

Are they having a purge?


# Posted by Beatfab - 27/05/2008, 11:19 (GMT)
Try to Google for Lyrics, that usually does at least tell you who wrote a song etc.

Too much red tape these days can kill live music at times,which is not good!!

Martin


# Posted by Threefold - 27/05/2008, 16:47 (GMT)
Some music venues have to declare to their local councils times and types of band/event as it depends on their music licence and the amount they pay for it..a recent place we played no names mentioned told their local council that they only put bands on every two weeks and only twice a week it reduced their music licence payment from 10k to 4.5 k it may be related to this that questions was asked years ago joining the musicians union and paying your dues used to get you around playing covers and not be responsible for royalties to go to the original recording artist but i personally have never been asked about royalties or even had a problem with copyright etc but with all this download from the internet stuff maybe they are clamping down ? but how would they police it ?
make an example of one band?


# Posted by The Fabulous Eggs - 27/05/2008, 19:36 (GMT)
Unpolicable-is that a word and unfair-


# Posted by Threefold - 27/05/2008, 19:53 (GMT)
The PRS (Performing Rights Society) issues licences for the performance of live music events in a public bar/venue ..if you use copyright music ,even in a karoke/quiz situation the PRS can take action against the venue if the licence is not up to date or the correct one, the owner of the music has the right to sue for damages / recompense if his/her music is performed and the PRS acts for them.

The PRS makes it easy for the venue/bar/pub to allow this by issuing PRS music licenses ,a PRS licence allows access to hundreds of songs from all eras written and published by it's members.They ensure royalty rights.

The cover band scenario is probably the worst offender re royalties but if the venue has his PRS music licence all performers are protected so your visitors may just be checking some venues out , but all bands covers or tributes acts if they are worried should ask the venue "do you have a PRS music licence ?".....sad thing is most cover / tribute bands are doing it for peanuts and love of the original material and some bands may still be popular because of this....I personally don't think it is a problem maybe Paul Mac does or Bono but hey I am sure they played other folks music when they started out.


# Posted by Threefold - 27/05/2008, 19:58 (GMT)
ust a PS I am sure that 99.9% of all venues will have a music licence I am just joining the debate cheers drumrod


# Posted by BLUES COLLECTIVE - 27/05/2008, 20:28 (GMT)
As an answer to some of the comments on here: we enquired and got the appropriate license about 12 months ago, we were told by the MCPS & PRS that we needed a license to cover songs on cds that we send out for promotional use, but that our myspace site was the problem of myspace themselves, they need the license and the venues we perform at should have licenses themselves! W e got the one license we needed and we mentioned this to the bod from PRS who came callin the other night and he said that seemed fine!


# Posted by The Fabulous Eggs - 28/05/2008, 09:06 (GMT)
When I was a young pup I used One Music site a lot!!

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